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Vibration Types

Motors

Amplitudes

This page will help you come up with questions of your own or questions not based on the sales pitch of

a dealer's website. Most questions are planted so you will ask the questions they want you to ask.

I NEVER buy one on the phone the first time I talk to a dealer. Do I think they really care about my

personal health story. They are just asking you about my health and concerns so they can sell

me something. Do not buy based on a good pseudo relationship with a salesperson. I ask relevant

questions to the machine I am buying. If they start getting too friendly, I just hang up. They do not

have a true interest in me. They prey on sick and needy people. If they think they can flirt their way

into selling to me they will. They will spend an hour listening to your stories while they play solitaire

on their computer at work.

FIVE Things to watch out for from a dealer.

1. Asking for your number.

2. Asking what state you live in.

3. Watch out for them telling you free shipping

4. Watch out for special sales, usually TODAY ONLY, OR A LIMITED TIME ONLY. (Check back next

week and I bet that special sale will still be there.

5. Yes or no questions instead of open ended questions

Things to AVOID talking about to a salesperson UNLESS YOU BRING IT UP

1. Your medical issues (don't tell them you have fibromyalgia or lyme disease or a bad back unless

you trust them)

2. Your Budget (I hate when they ask what my budget is. I don't have a budget. I'll borrow money if

I have to or get a 3rd job if I have to)

3. If you live in a home or apartment (this lets them know what your income is like. Most home owners

buy more expensive machines as a rule)

4. Your life story

5. Your diet

There are a few ways to get past this. Below are more questions that you might want to ask the company

before buying. Just like the big companies, if they are putting their reputation on their product they are

going to make sure its right.

(Tell us the answers, we know the answers from each company. We love to catch companies in lies.

3. What country are they made in? USA is the optimal for some but more costly.

4. What type of sweat should I expect?

5. Do they have their own people stationed at the plant?

This is very important for quality control

7. Does the company buy from the factory or are they owners (partners with the factory)

8. Do they have USA certifications insuring the product coming in is up to USA standards

(2 certifications that are a must have are ETL - this shows that it is fire and electrical safe and will not

catch fire in your home. The second is ROHL - this is showing that it has been tested and is not going

to be off- gassing.

9. Make sure you ask how long the company has been in business.

10. Make sure you get a credible report on the EMF rating of the the model you are buying (or get an

EMF meter so you can test it when you buy it. Let's not hold cell phones to our ears either.

Beware of companies saying that they have models that are USA made when all the components are

made and shipped in from other countries we might not approve of. A model can surely be put together

in the USA even if all the parts are from other countries that we don't know if they have quality controls.

Heirloom machines are made in OEM (original equipment manufacturer) locations. Models that are from

assembly companies come from places that I cannot even find. If I cannot find who is the assembler

and the importer or assembly dealer won't tell me, all I have is their word. How do I know that some cheap

import claiming they have a 2 HP motor really is 2HP. All it might say is 2 HP on the spec sheet and you

can't contact the manufacturer and ask if its peak or constant HP or input or output HP. They usually don't

speak English anyway. I just don't know. That is why I prefer a brand sold from an OEM company and even

more preferably, made in the USA, but that is just me. You can do whatever you want. There are many good

machines coming from overseas that are just as good as the USA made ones.

If I want to buy an OEM model, I want to buy it from the company that makes them. I will not buy from a

company that says they are using what they say they do. How smart is it to go directly to the source that

makes them?

I see different models that start at 25 hz and other that start at 2 to 3 hz. Why are they priced differently? One is $3,000 and another is $5,000 and another one nearly $20,000?

answer

It just depends. There are models that go as low as 2 to 3 hz that costs 18,000 dollars and some that costs a third of that. Some use speakers and use the air it blows to lift the plate and others have a levitating plate that requires just a little nudge to make the plate lift up and slightly more electricity is added to get it to go at higher frequencies. But, always take into consideration the "pop" feel. You will pay a lot more to have have a smoooooth ride. A good rotary plate also doesn't have that pop, just like you can buy a cheap car and a car with a very expensive motor. You can also get caught up in paying extra for over engineering quality

What makes one machine require more electricity than another?

This depends on the engineering. Some plates use momentum by a motor. Some have larger motors that use more momentum than electricity. Some are sonic also. Some have levitating plates that require almost zero electricity. There are pros and cons of each type. On a motorized one, you get constant amplitude but less frequency. On a sonic one, the frequency will be the same but a difference in weight can lower the amplitude. Added weight won't change how many times the speaker vibrates. On a rotary type that has a motor, the amplitude will not change, IT CAN'T. But, added weight can strain or slow a lower powered motor. If someone is very heavy. I would get a larger motor that would be capable of handling heavier weights.

You mentioned that there is a different sweat from different types of vibration? Please explain.

Generally, there are 2 types of sweat. Water based sweat and oily based sweat. Go into a boxing or kickboxing gym. Notice the smell in the locker room. Go into a conventional gym where they don't have lymphatic exercises from gravitational force. Notice that those locker rooms smell much better. Boxers are always hopping, jumping rope, and are always moving lymph. Most martial artists are lean and ripped. I will also say this. When I come from a spinning class from the gym or from the elliptical and put my clothes in my bag, by the time I get home, it really has a slight smell. When I take my clothes from my kickboxing class, I have to tie the bag. I have also smelled various underwear in the locker rooms from some of the other trainers. They reek! Yes, I do smell peoples underwear when they go to the showers. Don't look at me like I am strange. This is one of the things I do to study the lymphatic system and toxin elimination. Do the same when you get your machine. See what your clothes smell like a day later. And you will see what I am talking about.

aA. Well, if you have cushioned shoes on, you are getting less friction between your body and the plate (If you stud about safe vibrations versus gentle G-forces you can get a better understanding). The more expensive models have a more grounded feeling. They don't create excess friction. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A MACHINE CREATE SO MUCH FRICTION THAT IT MOVES ACROSS THE ROOM? There is a video I put up. It moves about a foot in about 5 seconds on high.Q. Is it better to wear shoes when using a WBV machine?

A. Well, if you have cushioned shoes on, you are getting less friction between your body and the plate (If you stud about safe vibrations versus gentle G-forces you can get a better understanding). The more expensive models have a more grounded feeling. They don't create excess friction. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A MACHINE CREATE SO MUCH FRICTION THAT IT MOVES ACROSS THE ROOM? There is a video I put up. It moves about a foot in about 5 seconds on high.

Q. I see machines that go from 3 to 80 hz, some that start at 25 hz. Which do you recommend?

A. Well, I can't recommend a machine unless I know your needs. But, generally, slower frequencies are wanted for therapy and lymphatic movement and faster is wanted for training (usually in gyms). Remember, the one way valves in the lymphatic system need time to open and close to move toxins. 2 to 3 HZ is optimal but will cost you a lot more since you are not using momentum. Sonic and electromagnetic models are the ones most used for therapy. Remember that you sacrifice amplitude on the less powerful models. On a cheap model that delivers 3 hz, make sure you know the maximum amplitude and not just think because you are getting 2 to 3 hz you are doing good. You can have a 3 hz machine with very little G force (comes with higher amplitude). So, be cautious one how you buy. If you weight over 200 lbs, that can make a big difference in amplitude. On the mechanical models, you sacrifice hz but the amplitude is fixed. But then again, I haven't seen one go to 2 to 3 hz that is mechanical.

Slower = Therapy

Faster = Training

Question: Why is there such a broad range in pricing for different machines? Will a $2000 machine do the same for me as a $15,000 machines?

There are a number of reasons why WBV machines vary in price. The most common being the style and classification of the equipment.

Many of the more expensive machines are made for use in commercial industrial settings like a gym or other high volume exercise facility. They produce a much stronger vibration and are much bigger in size so they can be utilized by professional and elite athletes. More expensive parts, complex mechanics and user interfaces, and other costs all play a part in the end pricing. Most companies justifiably need to have higher prices in order to cover costs others are just flat out over priced.

Lower cost machines utilize the same technology concepts, they are just manufactured for a different use. These machines don't need be able to produce as intense of a vibration. Most of them are made for use in clinics, spas, boutique gyms and the home. Designs are usually simpler and the equipment is smaller so this brings down the production costs. They are just as effective as the bigger machines but they produce a more comfortable vibration that is safer for a wider range of people. Some companies who produce lower cost equipment offer the same warranty as the higher priced equipment. This is a key indicator that their quality is just as good but is applicable to the usage those machines are made for.

First you need to decide how the machine will be used and what you're expecting to accomplish. Just like you wouldn't need a semi truck to commute to work, you don't need an oversized, overpowered, overpriced, WBV machine if a less expensive would work better for your purpose.

Question: Some machines have 1 motor and others have 2 claiming that they're better, whats that all about?

It has to do with how powerful the vibration is. In America we're ingrained to live by the more is better philosophy. But with WBV that way of thinking doesn't necessarily ring true. Just because a machine has 1 motor doesn't mean it's not as good of a machine, it means it probably produces a less intense vibration more suitable for the majority of the public. Machines with 2 motors are usually more expensive and the second motor adds another moving part, therefore providing a possibly for one more thing to go wrong with the machine. They are usually stronger and have a different application. It really depends on what you want to use the machine for. If you're looking to exercise lots of very fit people and do dynamic exercises with weights, a 2 motor machine may be the best. If you're not an athlete and just want a machine to get the benefits of WBV, then a 1 motor machine would probably be better.

Question: When looking for machines there seem to be a lot of places to purchase them like online stores, auction sites, ect. Is it safe to purchase from these online places or is it better to go direct?

If you have the option, buying direct is better for the most part. Or if you can buy from a distributor that is reputable you can also buy from them safely. This way you can ensure proper warranty activation and coverage along with access to any value added services a company may offer. Many times the machines found on a majority of online stores and auction sites are people who just want to make a quick buck. They aren't concerned with what happens after the sale, they'll just take your money and run. Then you're stuck with no one to turn to if something goes wrong with the equipment.

Question: If I am going to spend a few thousand dollars to buy this equipment I want to make sure I don't get ripped off. When evaluating different companies what are the things to look for to decipher which are reputable and which aren't?

The most important thing to look for in a WBV company is image and reputation. Go to the company's website and browse around (if they don't have one, that's a good sign you should stay away) and ask yourself:

Does it look professional?

Does it appear to be an actual company or is it just a facade?

Who is behind the company?

Are they involved in the medical community? (Some WBV companies say that their machines are in chiropractic offices and physical therapy clinics and when I asked them to give me some names of hospitals or doctors who have them in their clinic, well, they are still getting back to me. DO NOT JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THEY SAY WBV MACHINES ARE USED IN DOCTORS OFFICES. ASK THEM TO PROVE IT).

Do they list the names of people or companies involved with their organization?

Are these names verifiable with a quick online search? (are they real people and/or companies. It's like, hey, I am starting a wbv store, let me see if I have any friends that can help me take phone calls and BS people into thinking we really know about WBV. Better yet, I'll go on Craigslist and put an ad out for a sales person).

If a site looks and feels professional and the company is involved with other reputable people and organizations, it's most likely a legitimate outfit. Also if a company is involved in the medical community it shows they must have a good reputation and quality equipment because if not, doctors wouldn't support and use their products. Go with what you gut tells you and if you're still a little suspicious give the company a call and see how you're treated by the staff and how knowledgeable they are on the technology.

Ask some questions about their product, if they have to go on the internet and look up the specs and don't KNOW THE SPECS about their own product they are selling, this would raise a red flag with me.

Question: Does the initial distributor/importer have to register the wbv machines that they are importing into the United States?

No, initial distributors/importers do not list the devices that they import into the United States. The foreign manufacturer is responsible for listing the devices. I would never buy a wbv machine is not registered in the USA. You can go to Alibaba.com and look up the brand name of the wbv machine you want. I see machines that sell for $7,000 dollars in from authorized USA distributors and on that site I see the same machine, same model number, for $3,000. I am like, WTF. How can someone get a machine for less than 1/2 the price. Well, if the machine is not registered in the USA and it breaks or you need to replace something, the warranty might only apply in the country it's warranty is good in. If it has a Korean warranty, you will have to pay to ship it to Korea to fix it. Usually, the manuals, the wbv interface is not written in English. That is a sign that they WBV machine was not made to be sold in the USA anyway. You have to decide if you want to pay $7,000 for a wbv machine or $3,000 and have zero service and warranty in the USA. If you don't think you will have a problem during the 2 year warranty period, then go for it. Or, if you know how to wheel and deal, I would try to get the wbv machine made for the USA for as close to $3,000 as you can. Use the knowledge that the same machine being sold for $7,000 and $3,000 are made in the same factory but were intended to go to two different markets. If you want to support a company that is infringing on a USA importers territory who should not be selling in the USA and violating their contract, that is your choice also. It appears that people are buying them overseas and importing them back to the USA. I have not heard of any stories of people not getting the wbv they ordered or getting ripped off but the warranty issue is the main problem here. Buy at your own risk. Buying directly from a USA distributor who is part owners of the manufacturer is always the best way to buy.

Warranty questions:

Make sure you know your warranty. Some companies will let you send it back and you will be without your machine for 2 to 3 weeks while they fix it while some companies will send a call tag for your entire machine and send you a new one (these are usually the more expensive brands). You get the entire machine replacement in 3 to 5 days and you send the old one back, not just the part that broke. (sometimes you don't know if it is the motor that broke or the control panel, so its best to send the entire thing in so you don't get the part back and the company said it was not that part that was broken, a total waste of 2 weeks and shipping costs.

Always make sure you know who pays for return shipping as well as shipping to them.

I would love to hear a question that I have not hear before. This is how I get inspired to call manufacturers and test the machine against their claims. If I don't have access to a certain model I can certainly try to contact someone who did buy it, or possibly several customers who have the model you want and ask them the questions you have. I am blessed to have people who I can call up and get answers without getting biased information from the manufacturers. Call me at 1-866-945-9072 and I can answer a question if I know the answer or make a few calls if I don't.

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